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Why does India falsely claim that Gautam Buddha was born in India while the birthplace is in Lumbini, Nepal?

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Mahesh Karki
Mahesh KarkiStudent
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it's a 100% lie that Buddha was born in India. Obviously people knew that because that's exactly what old writes wrote in their books It's the writers fault who are misleading people. You can still find many misleaded articles in  internet in huge amount.

Recently an Indian writer Fareed Zacharia wrote on his new book The Post-American World that Buddha was an Indian. Even today's writer are spreading false information.


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There was not proper investigation at that that time so world was taught that Buddha was born in India but now UN has listed Lumbini as a world heritage site and written Lumbini as a birth place of Buddha-

i can say that there is lot of political influence of India in Nepal and some whats its Politics as well. i don't know if u are aware of this thing or not but Indian is building a fake Lumbini to make world believe that Buddha was born in India.

We cant even imagine how much country can benefit from this fact that Buddha was born in their country . How much Religious Tourist you can have in your country. I think that's also one of the reason why India is trying to mislead this fact to world.
Raju Kar
Raju Karradio jockey
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The Ashoka pillar in Lumbini,Nepal bulit by Emperor Asoka answers everything. The carvings on the pillar goes like this:-

" The favorites of all gods, 20 years after his coronation, himself came here and offered holy respect to this place. Shakyamuni " Gautam Buddha" was born here. Therefore, a pillar was built here. Bhagawan 'God' was born here. Therefore, all taxes were discontinued from Lumbini Village and 1/8 of the agricultural production ( Which the king has the right to) , that too was provided to the villagers."
Kishan Gupta
Kishan GuptaInterested in everything
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Everyday i wake up and see Post on FB, Twitter about this, it irritates me. My Nepalese friends are angry on all this bull shit and my Indian friends are not even bothered. They don't even know that conspiracy like this even exists. 

It can easily be inferred that Buddha was born even before actual existence of Nepal and India. So its bizarre thing to quote that he was born in one of the country. Let's take a notice of the piece of land where he was born. He was the prince of Kapilvastu, a shakya kingdom at that time. And he was born in a garden in Lumbini when his mother was travelling to her father's place and had a labour on the way.

At present both the palces are in Nepal. My hometown is 22km from Lumbini and some 45-50 km from kapilvastu. So the exact thing should be "Buddha was born in Lumbini and Lumbini currently lies in Nepal". The day India says Lumbini is in India that will be the day when u should start protesting.

Let me assure you none of the Nepalese have to worry about some foolish director of an episode of a serial on Buddha. The Buddha devotees knows their place of worship and will always be visiting Lumbini.
Deepak Seth
Deepak Seth
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The demarcations of boundaries of the political entities currently called India and Nepal are from much after Buddha's time. In his time there were local kingdoms/principalities  whose boundaries spanned across the current borders and were very closely linked by clan/religious ties. The borders were fluid and Buddha, Mahavira, other teachers and their disciples needed no "passports" or "visas" or pass through "border-control" as they criss-crossed the land preaching their message. 
  
The question itself seems to be incorrect because I do not think "India" has ever made any claim of Buddha's birthplace being in India. Yes, for Buddha himself both countries can be proud and claim him as their own as his janambhoomi (land of birth) and karmabhoomi (land of action) spanned the region which is now part of these 2 countries.
Sagar Upreti
Sagar UpretiAccountant interested in science, history, philosophy and all the things whic...
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I am amazed by my friends claim that Nepal was not there when buddha was born i will give you historical details about it. My indian friends please read about ithttp://royalnepal.synthasite.com...  
Nepal's existence can be traced back to age of truth (Satya yuga)
It is just so shocking how people go babbling without knowing truth.
Yam Thapa
Yam ThapaPhilosophy Student
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Buddhism is an amazing philosophy. It does not belong to any particular country. He was born in ancient Nepal as prince Siddhartha, and achieved Nirvana in ancient India. None of the countries have right to claim "he belongs to us".
Kabir Gupta
Kabir GuptaIndian History Enthusiast.
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India, Nepal, Pakistan, and Bangladesh did not exist as nation states during that time. The concept of a nation state (a region being united under ONE government and culture), introduced to the diverse subcontinent by the Europeans, did not exist in India. Throughout history, the Indian subcontinent was hardly ever united politically, yet maintained a sense of cultural unity. Indians have not historically looked towards their government/ruler for unity, but rather their culture. The land in the neighboring kingdom ruled by another King wasn’t looked upon as a separate country in pre-modern India. It was still India, regardless of the monarch.
The land comprising Nepal, and especially the Terai/Madesh region, has always been part of the cultural unity shared by the various kingdoms ruling India. There was no Republic of India or Kingdom of Nepal. All of Northern India was ruled by several Aryan Sanskrit speaking ruling clans. There was no distinction between the land making up present day Nepal or India. Such a distinction is relatively new, and this is a historical fact. The area now known as Nepal was part of the Hindu cultural area known as India. The Gurkha kingdom was simply never controlled by the British like the other Indian kingdoms, hence never incorporated into the British Indian Empire, and therefore isn’t part of the current Republic of India. This is simply because the British found it more convenient to have the Gurkhas as allies. Let’s be realistic. Yes, the Gurkhas were fierce fighters and defeated the British East India Company during the Anglo Nepalese War in 1815. However, once control of India passed to the British Crown, with the its military and economic might, the British Monarchy could have easily annexed Nepal later in the 19th century.
The borders of Gautam Buddha’s Kingdom, Kapilavastu, enclosed land in both present day India and Nepal. Seeing that the Republic of India is a direct continuation of the Vedic civilization Buddha was born into, it is safe to call him an Indian. Also, Kapilavastu along with the other ancient kingdoms, is referred to by historians as “Ancient India.”
Also, Northern Indians, including the Shakya kingdom of Kapilavastu, described themselves as residents of “Bharat Varsh” or just “Bharat,” which means “India” in Sanskrit. “India” is a European name for the subcontinent, and most Indian languages call India “Bharat.”
Therefore, I think the controversy over Buddha’s birthplace is needlessly harped on. Buddha was born in Lumbini which is (barely) in present day Nepal, lying almost on the border of the Madhesh region, but Nepal during the time of Buddha was part of Bharat. Therefore, both Nepal and India have an equal claim over Buddha’s legacy.
Abhirup Dutta
Abhirup Dutta
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This refers to historical India - the Indian Subcontinent, not the present political entity - Republic of India. The word used here is "Bharath Varsh" and the PC term for it is South Asia.

I understand why Nepalese people are offended. A lot of Nepalis see India as a big bully that steals their limelight. Most Westerners think Nepal is a part of India and also associate Hinduism with India, despite Nepalis being Hindus as well. The same goes for other smaller countries in South Asia who are terms generically as Indians in other countries and this is offensive to them.

The serial is of course at fault. It not only mentions "Bharath" which can be misterpreted as present India but also mentions Ram and Krishna as predecessors of Buddha. However, they avoided explicitly connecting Buddha to Vishnu-Avatar. The serial has a tough rope to walk. On one hand they to stick to facts, on the other hand they have to make the Indian audience strike a chord with Buddha (A lot of Indians consider Buddhism as a 'Chinese' religion, and thus consider Buddhists as foreigners, which is of course false. Buddha spent his whole life in Magadha and Kosala after enlightenment and Buddhism is an important part of our ancient history.)

I understand and support mentioning that Sidhartha was born in Kapilavastu which is in modern day Nepal. We Indians are taught this in history books as well.

However, I also think for anti-Indian Nepalese, this is merely a placeholder issue to spout their hatred. This new article shows how much Buddhism is "respected" in Nepal.

Tibetan groups protest against Nepal government

In short, yes, I agree with Nepalis with respect to the birth place of Siddartha, but I also suspect there is a lot of anti-Indian sentiment in Nepal and Nepalis are protesting more because of this rather than out of respect for Buddhism. This hatred is detrimental to the relations between the two countries.
Robert Free
Robert FreePracticed for 25 years. Have lived in a monastery.
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India has Buddha issues. Some claim him to be a good guy. Some say he was evil. Some say he was both. Few follow his teaching on animal sacrifice, gender equality and the caste system. But their support of the Tibetans is wonderful and their treatment of the Northern Buddhist Indians an example for China. Fortunately it doesn't matter where he was born or even whether he was born. The Dharma exists and it works for those that it suits.
Prateek Kumar
Prateek Kumar
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Look at this map of the Silk Road transmission of Buddhism, and tell me if they're wrong.
To focus on the arbitrary instant of the expulsion from a birth canal in a region in present-day Nepal, would be absurd - particularly if that kingdom was probably a vassal of a Northern Indic kingdom.
In the wider picture though, Buddhism has largely wound up from South Asia so neither India or Nepal can claim to be its source in modern times.
Tin Vo
Tin VoIT consultant
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All the scriptures clearly say that Siddhārtha Gautama was borned in Kapilavastu, present-day Nepal, but when he was born, he was NOT a Buddha.

He left his household/palace to live an ascetic life in search for enlightenment.

After many years, he meditated under a Bodhi tree and reached full enlightement where he became Buddha.  This tree is located in Bodh GayaIndia.

Therefore, it is correct to say that the Buddha was born in India; however, Siddhārtha Gautama was born in Nepal.
Anish Gopinath
Anish Gopinathmyths or facts
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Hi, Im not sure the debate of India falsely claiming the birthplace of Buddha. Its been so far concluded that Buddha was born in Lumbini,Nepal and he attained enlightment in Gaya, as small town in Current Bihar State of India. There were no Country named as Nepal before B.C. This might be the reason to claim
      It might be a myth that Buddha was claimed as a one of the avatar of Vishnu. (Some Claim Balaram as a avatar of Vishnu, but its not.He is the Serpant(adisesha) as same as Laxman in Ram's period) .People of Ancient India always believed in giving a important place to Cow. (gow in sanskrit means cow) Like Krishan has other Gopala,gomateshwara,Govindha, Govardhana, etc.Gautama means Gow, and uttama means the greatest Cow.
Conclusion.
1) There was no country named Nepal before B.C(it was named as Bharat) and entire country covering Pakistan, Bangladesh, Nepal and even it extends to Cambodia. No wonder why we have biggest Hindu temple over there.
2) Reference of Buddha in Vishnu avatar and the name derivation of Gautama was sankrit derivative, In that way Many are thinking Buddha infact is Indian.
Sags P
Sags P
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I don't think it is a false claim because historically (during his Buddha's birth time) the region was in a kingdom which was considered part of wider Hindustan or Bharat. True Lumbini is in today's Nepal but in past and I mean real long time back it was part of wider Empire Of Indian origin.
It is not just an Indian thing as well.... Greeks claim Alexander but in reality he was a Macedonian king. There are several other examples in history. As time passes and wars conclude, boundaries shift but original context still remains.
Shurjendu Dutt-Mazumdar
Shurjendu Dutt-Mazumdarperennial student and tyro litterateur, I bloviate on sundry subjects which c...
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Because before the Mughals and British came around India included the entire subcontinent and all its kingdoms. Siddhartha Gautama was an Indian man who wandered about a land he knew as Bhārat, which is why he happened to get enlightenment while physically in modern-day Bihar. Modern-day borders and boundaries don't determine what India once was. Siddhartha Gautama was Indian and so was his reincarnation, so to speak, as the Buddha. Nepal and many south-eastern parts of Afghanistan were all "India", just as Pakistan and ALL of Kashmir were. You can't judge a historical land by modern political borders. That's just stupid.
Suyash Khare
Suyash KhareStudent by heart.
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Here's the thing. Buddha was born in Lumbini (PRESENT DAY NEPAL). But in those times there was no concept of countries lIke Nepal or India. There was only Bharatvarsh, a territorial entity which is today called the Indian subcontinent, and numerous small and large kingdoms in it. Hence both countries can teach in their history books that Buddha was born in our country, Though technically he was born in Nepal.

Now to all Nepalis who think that India is 'stealing their thunder' by saying that Buddha was born in India-- Buddha was a Prince of Kapilvastu(India) , he attained enlightenment in Bodhgaya(India) which is also called the most sacred place for all Buddhists, he gave his first sermon in Sarnath(India), & he attained Nirvana in Kushinagar(India). May be hewas born in Lumbini, but all other major events in his life took place in India. In every sense, Buddhism is a religion of India..
Most of the Indians don't claim anything about Buddha. I don't understand why Nepalese are so restless in making every Indian say Siddhartha Gautama was born in Nepal. The Indian government recognizes that. The UN recognized that. What else do you need?
When Indians say land of Buddha, they need not mean Buddha was born here. But his Nirvana was here. Most of his holy shrines are here. Most of the Bodhisattva are born in India.
Also some people might say, his nirvana was in India, he became Siddhartha to Buddha in India.
That said, Indians are least concerned about Buddha. Atleast not as much concerned as Nepalese believe it to be. Even Buddhists are not political targets so politicians are also least concerned. Where is the problem now? It is just a feeling of insecurity.
Buddha was born in Lumbini which is in a country called Nepal today. That's it no body claims anything less or more.
90% of Indians don't even think about who, where and when Buddha was.
Janak Tiwari
Janak TiwariBorn in Nepal, moulded by Nepal..
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In my opinion lord Buddha was neither born in Nepal nor India. He was Siddhartha Gautam who was born in Lumbini, Nepal. If we are considering Buddha as Siddhartha Gautam, yes he is born in Nepal. India must stop creating false message.
Gautam Buddha as he himself told is different from Siddhartha Gautam. Buddha got enlightedment and he himself told that he is free from the cycle of life and death. From these we must understand that Buddha was above than this born. So, why should we care about his born and born place.
We need not to argue about his birthplace here, what we need to learn is the way of living he had shown to us. We need to follow the path Buddha had shown to us. Buddha always show us the path of peace, will he be happy if we started fighting taking his matter itself?
Some time Indians used to tell that they are from the land of Buddha. There is nothing wrong on it. Yes, Indians and Nepalese must be proud that they are from the land of Buddha. Instead of debating with each other on the name of Buddha, we need to follow the path of peace shown by Buddha. Buddha was neither Nepalese nor Indian, he is the true gift of knowledge to all human and humanity.
Ashutosh Mishra
Ashutosh Mishraअत्त दीप भव
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Few Facts
  1. It is siddartha who was born in jungle named lumbini which is situated on the border of Nepal and India.
  2. When Siddartha (aka Buddha) was born there is no nepal its kapilvastoo.
  3. Buddha was born in Bihar beneath the pipal Tree situated in gaya bihar India.
  4. Based on modern situation Siddartha was born in Nepal, and Buddha was born in India.
Milindraj Deole
Milindraj Deole
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It was Siddharth Gotama who was born in Nepal, not the Buddha.
Prince Siddharth Gotama was born to King Shuddhodhana and Queen Mayavati in the Sakyan Kingdom, which was then a part of Nepal.
But later, the prince Siddhartha left his kingdom and came down to India  and he meditated under a tree and attained enlightenment, and hence  became a BUDDHA.
According to Buddhism, a Buddha is not naturally born, but a person becomes Buddha by his efforts.
And the place where Buddha attained enlightenment [Nirvana] is in India, not in Nepal.
Hence India is also called as “Buddha bhoomi” in Theravada Buddhism.
So Nepalese can take credit in claiming that Price Siddhartha Gotama  was from Nepal, but must accept that Lord BUDDHA was from India.
Vik Murty
Vik MurtyIndian living in Americas
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It is a 100% lie since "India" did not exist until long after the British.  Oh by the way, neither did Nepal exist in the way you state when the Buddha was born.  Siddharta can only be claimed as a prince of the Hindu Shaikya Republic.  We are all Hindus, it does not matter.  Live life without division...
Tej Shah
Tej ShahElectrical engineer and mathematician and Traveler
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Lord Budhdha was born in Hindu religion. Basically he found the real knowledge of spirituality in India. He found gyana(knowledge) under the tree which is still in Bodhigaya(India). So more or less he was Indian.Siddhārtha Gautama was the historical founder of Buddhism. He was born a Kshatriya warrior prince in ancient India, which is now located in present-day Lumbini, Nepal.
Manan Mehta
Manan Mehta
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Bhagat Singh was Born in The Punjab Province of Pakistan. However we call him Indian because he fought for a National called India or Bharat. Similarly Buddha didn't start a new religion. He start a new sect in The Sanatan Dharma tradition which opted for mediocracy. And he also imparted his teachings in different parts of India. Even though today it is a different nation called Nepal, it was always a part of the Indian Subcontinent. It shared the same religion, culture language and script. Thus, while Addressing Shahid Bhagat Singh or Buddha. We address them as Indians. On the contrary, we don't address Jinah as Indian even though he was born as one but he was the reason for carving out a new Country. Thus, borders keep changing, people do good. And it is the heritage of the people for whom the good has been done.
Ramesh Sharma
Ramesh Sharma
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Its so hypocrite that some of our Indian friends clam that whatever awesome things happened in the South Asia in ancient times belongs to present day India. Forget it. Yes, India is a bigger country but it is just a part of much bigger south asian region.

We Nepali any any other south asian countries have no problem when a Indian claims on anything within their boundary. Buddha died in present day Bihar we accept that. Why they have problem on Buddha being born in Nepal which is even verified by UNESCO.

For the people saying Nepal did not exist that time, the country Nepal is much older than Buddhism and forget about India.
Sunny Adak
Sunny Adakfrom the land of billion dreams
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Siddharth was born in Nepal, while Gautam Buddha born in India.

Buddha was just Prince Siddharth when we was born, but he gained true knowledge in India... and named Buddha.

He is real Nepali Indian.
Rohan Ekanayake
Rohan EkanayakeBorn: 1968 Colombo, Sri Lanka
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  • The Buddha was born in Nepal. Buddha achieved enlightenment, gained spiritual following and achieved nirvana in India (Bodhgaya, Sarnath, Kushinagar all located in the Indian state of Bihar, one of the poorest in India). Buddhism was subsumed by Hinduism and none of India governments sought to even consider reviving the lost place given to Buddhism until now. Buddhism was abandoned by India and its leaders never gave any prominence to it though .
Ayush Bhat
Ayush Bhat
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I have a simple answer for this question:
Siddhartha Gautama was born in Nepal but he became  Gautama Buddha in India, in Bodhgaya, Bihar.
And when he was born there was no Nepal and there was no India as you can see this (Gautama Buddha) Wikipedia link about him, there is written born in Lumbini,Shakya Republic not Nepal and died in KushinagarMalla Republic not India. India is a modern thing Ancient India was just cluster of kingdoms.
Bhushan Shah
Bhushan Shah
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There was no Nepal at that time. Whole region was covered with Indian kingdoms. Gautam Buddha was born in an Indian kingdom, in Indian culture and civilization. Hence, he was an Indian.

Note that, nowhere I am mentioning that he was born in India (as in a country). I am specifying that he was born into Indian kingdom, in flood planes of Ganges which were cradle of Indian civilization at that time and in Indian culture. His thought processes were shaped by Indian philosophies, not some Nepali philosophies as Nepal was non-existent at that time.
Sharath Nair
Sharath Nairexpert on indian religions
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if u go back to the history u will see that time gautam buddha was born in the maurya empire to be precise and the maurya empire almost covered 3/4th of the indian subcontinent heres the picture
now as u can see the maurya empire stretches from afghanistan to northeast india and also from karnataka to the kashmir valley.. here even nepal is included in the empire infact in most of ancient hindu empires nepal was always included in it.
so to be precise buddha was neither born in india nor nepal but he was born in akhand bharat!!! after the partition the king of nepal decided to become a seperate country so its called nepal now.......... so we can say buddha was born in the indian subcontinent or akhand bharat. not just bharat
Vaibhav Chaturvedy
Vaibhav Chaturvedyliving.
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Well what I have learnt is that India claims Buddhism was born in India. Of course buddha was not born in this India. But if you put aside the political boundaries Gautam Buddha was born in the land lying east of Indus. Even I have been taught in school that'Gautam Buddha was born in a state, presently in Nepal'.
Could you please provide a reference that 'India claims Buddha was born in India'.?
Aniruddha Sarkar
Aniruddha SarkarFund Manager by the day and pursuer of bigger ideas thereafter!
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As rightly mentioned by Bhushan Shah there was no Nepal in the times of Gautam Buddha. It was all part of undivided India and was beyond the Hindukush. Moreover Lord Buddha has spent the greater part of his life in India since birth and was also born into a Hindu Royal family.
This is much ado about nothing. Buddha is the product of the Indian philosophical tradition that originated in the sub-continent of India. It is immaterial whether his birthplace is currently in a political entity called Nepal.

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